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More Info on IRR placement SNAFUs

LTC (ret) Weldon formerly a deputy G1 wrote me today to elaborate on where the problem usually lies for replacements who arrive to find that they have no position to fill:

Steve:

HQDA and HRC St Louis do not assign individuals to positions within a theater, nor even at a stateside installation. Installations and theaters report projected vacancies and DA and HRC St Louis attempt to fill them. The problem lies within the theater and whoever is requesting personnel and validating the unit's requests. This, unfortunately, has for many years been the Army's weak link. They typically do not validate requests. If your unit shows a vacancy according to their MTOE, yet they are filling it with a soldier who is perhaps not of the correct grade or specialty, then when the soldier who fits the bill shows up the unit states that they don't have a shortage! Here is a good example of what I ran into in 1989. Ft Hood was placing LT's in CPT slots in a particular aviation brigade. They were showing that they were full up on CPT's, but short on LT's. I couldn't get assigned to Ft Hood because there were no vacancies. At Ft Ord, however, they reported that th ey were short CPT's so when I showed up they didn't initially have a job for me. Sound like the situation in Iraq? This is what happens when the G1 or J1 does not validate a unit's request and insure that they need what they are asking for. Also, it takes months to requistion a soldier out of the IRR and things can change by the time the soldier arrives.

Therefore, my recommendation is to work with the chain of command for the specific job and skill that is appropriate. As a last resort, I would write my congressman, but I would not expect a quick resolution.

Thanks for the opportunity to express this view.

Published Friday, October 01, 2004 12:43 PM by ssmith

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ssmith said:

This is very good advice but our proactive attemps to communicate with whoever has the authority to make assignment decisions has been thwarted by HRC personnel who claim they have no way of actually determining where in theater we are going to until we arrive. I was told by Ft Sill AG office that there was no possible way to determine my unit assignment or possition. I received a spreadsheet from the drill sgt responsible for our mobilization that had UIC codes for our gaining units and even our paragraph and line number assignments. We also had WIAS codes. No one at Ft Sill claimed to know what the data was or how to get more complete information, or better yet, how I could contact someone in charge of personnel assignments in theater and fully discuss my qualifications.

The information in the spreadsheet was, in fact, very accurate.

When i arrived at the CRC-Ft Bliss several other IRRs were able to get more complete information regarding their assignments but I was listed as "no record found." That could be because I was a unit fill assignee.

I knew damn well there wasn't a pressing need for Field Artillery officers in Iraq at this point in time. I thought I was activated due to my civilian employment as a police officer. In fact, I was called to fill an FA slot in unit that is doing force protection in Kuwait. Thankfully, I ended up in Iraq with a different force protection mission that will allow me to make a valid contribution. I'm not just wasting my time while my city loses another cop on the street.

On the other hand some of the people I mobilized with are not so lucky. One, who happens to be THE indirect fire subject matter for FATS (Fire Arms Training Systems was taken from his job and sent to Honduras to be a protocol officer because someone beleived he spoke Spanish. Rather then attempting to verify his skills--he does not speak Spanish, he only took a short Army language course in 1990--they sent him anyways. The Air Force is losing out on this deal as he trained their personnel on the foward controler system.

Yet another IRR, FA and a logistician in civilian life, has the honor of working with the Iraqi Police building stations and training them. He has no experience with law enforcement. He is also locked into a 18 month tour in theater. FOr those of you not following the news, this is one of the more dangerous jobs in Iraq as police are a frequent target for VBIED (car bomb) attacks

I'm convinced that we would be left here indefinitely if we relied upon HRC. My unit has stated that they will take us (IRR's)home with them when they redeploy in March. I'm not convinced that we will be allowed to join them but I do trust the sincerity of the statement. Othertwise, I have no idea how long I'm here for as i have conflicting sets of orders; one with a release date of 6 July 05, the other with a redeployment date of January 06. I find it ironic how the involuntarily recalled soldiers are bearing some of the longest tours here.

HRC is broken and has absolutely no initiative to fix these issues.
October 1, 2004 4:16 PM
 

ssmith said:

I am one of Five 74D's (Chemical Operations SPC)who was called back to active duty on the basis of holding a "critical MOS" Three of us are together at Camp Arifjan ALL holding admin positions. The other two have duty in Qutar doing similar duties. Upon arriving in country no one knew who we were or where in theater we were going. Finally we were picked up and asigned to Arcent 3rd Army. They didn't have jobs for us either. On the units books we are all excess. The only real duty position I hold is unit mail clerk and thats only if there is no one else to do it that day. I don't object to doing my duty as a soldier, I would just feel alot better about it as would all the other IRR call-ups if the system would slot us in positions remotely close to our job skill. When I bring this up to people they say "there are finance soldiers doing force protestion" Or there are firefighters counting ammo. OK but they are all National Gaurd or Reservist. When you drill with a unit you know you can be called up at anytime to do your duty. So if there are Gaurdsman and Reservist in duty positions unrelated to there job skill because there is no where else to put them due to the mission, How can the Military say they are understrenthed enough to Activate IRR soldiers?
If anyone is experiancing anything similar to this feel free to E-mail me
smitty.smith80@us.army.mil

SPC.Smith
October 3, 2004 7:33 AM
 

ssmith said:

Does anyone know if anyone thats 31-series has been activated, after my first tour in Iraq. My wife, I think, would become suicidal. We've been married 2 years and with Iraq, and ETSing and working on her VISA for her to come over from Germany, we haven't been together for even a year, and no longer than 4 months at a time. I dont think she could take it if I had to go back again. Expecially when she finally got her VISA and just gets here to the states. Then she would have to go back to Germany again.
October 29, 2004 6:59 PM
 

ssmith said:

Sean - e-mail me at kurt.wahl@us.army.mil and I may be able to provide some info, but this site would not be the proper forum to do so.
November 3, 2004 12:07 AM
 

ssmith said:

I'm in the IRR and have about a year left. I've heard that so many have been reactivated and was expecting to get notification myself. I've moved several times since having left the reserves and am now wondering if perhaps the Army doesn't know where I am. Does anyone know how you can get information on call ups? I just want to make sure I'm not supposed to be somewhere else right now.
November 6, 2004 11:31 PM
 

ssmith said:

HEY I SECOND THAT QUESTION (WILL) HOW DO WE FIND OUT IF THEY EVEN NEED US OR IF WERE EVEN WANTED ?
November 8, 2004 11:16 PM

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About ssmith

Enlisted in 1995. Basic at Ft Sill. AIT at Ft Jackson (75F). Served in Ohio National Guard. Went through ROTC program at Ohio State University and received 2LT commission in 1997, Engineer branch. Spent about 4 years in 16th Engineer Brigade in Ohio National Guard, then moved far from nearest unit and went into Inactive National Guard, and eventually Individual Ready Reserve. Called up from IRR in 2004 for duty in Iraq (Engineer Platoon Leader with 1st ID). Made it home in 2005. Resigned commission as a CPT in December 2005.